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	<title>Comments on: Prepping for ChangeCamp: Generation Y and the curious case of (my) civic engagement</title>
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	<description>a dash of impossibility makes for more fun</description>
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		<title>By: mike coulson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike coulson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes - I think the web has the ability to bring the issue to ME, to contextualize it, spread it throughout society quickly and effortlessly to the individual(s) who are interested in it, thereby increasing the chance that it will reach critical mass. Or at least decrease apathy by making politics about an issue that matters to you, rather than the amorphous mass of confusion of say, today&#039;s budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes &#8211; I think the web has the ability to bring the issue to ME, to contextualize it, spread it throughout society quickly and effortlessly to the individual(s) who are interested in it, thereby increasing the chance that it will reach critical mass. Or at least decrease apathy by making politics about an issue that matters to you, rather than the amorphous mass of confusion of say, today&#39;s budget.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Jayasekera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan Jayasekera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually like the self-centredness of Gen Y.  In a world where so much has changed lately and lots more change lies ahead, conventional wisdom isn&#039;t that much use, and searching (for how to effect change, for meaning at work, etc. etc.) is essential.  Gen Y-ers will find the answers that need to be found.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rohan (pre-Gen X)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually like the self-centredness of Gen Y.  In a world where so much has changed lately and lots more change lies ahead, conventional wisdom isn&#39;t that much use, and searching (for how to effect change, for meaning at work, etc. etc.) is essential.  Gen Y-ers will find the answers that need to be found.</p>
<p>Rohan (pre-Gen X)</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,

Thanks for the comment!

&lt;blockquote&gt;But is there not an initial missing gap from a desire to engage to observant and well-informed?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Certainly; it&#039;s not entirely unlike Jeffrey Moore&#039;s &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Crossing the Chasm&lt;/a&gt;&quot; in some ways either.  I envisioned it as something akin to showing people who haven&#039;t been exposed to the technology what the benefits are of connecting with people through tools like Twitter. The benefits need to be articulated as both the positives for expressing, posting, updating, as well as what can be gained from &lt;em&gt;listening&lt;/em&gt; - that&#039;s the part that I think people are nervous about.

As a complete aside, I was actually a bit surprised by how much attention and fascination people have with Twitter during NetTuesday and ChangeCamp. Not in the negative sense, in that I don&#039;t think it deserves it, but the collective handwaving - especially now, having used Twitter for the better part of 2 years - is surprising, but I can see how in light of recent events (like #ChangeCamp becoming the number one Twitter search on Saturday) people are really enthused about what we can do with it. Also, Twitter didn&#039;t make sense for me before TweetDeck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
<blockquote><p>But is there not an initial missing gap from a desire to engage to observant and well-informed?</p></blockquote>
<p>Certainly; it&#8217;s not entirely unlike Jeffrey Moore&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm" rel="nofollow">Crossing the Chasm</a>&#8221; in some ways either.  I envisioned it as something akin to showing people who haven&#8217;t been exposed to the technology what the benefits are of connecting with people through tools like Twitter. The benefits need to be articulated as both the positives for expressing, posting, updating, as well as what can be gained from <em>listening</em> &#8211; that&#8217;s the part that I think people are nervous about.</p>
<p>As a complete aside, I was actually a bit surprised by how much attention and fascination people have with Twitter during NetTuesday and ChangeCamp. Not in the negative sense, in that I don&#8217;t think it deserves it, but the collective handwaving &#8211; especially now, having used Twitter for the better part of 2 years &#8211; is surprising, but I can see how in light of recent events (like #ChangeCamp becoming the number one Twitter search on Saturday) people are really enthused about what we can do with it. Also, Twitter didn&#8217;t make sense for me before TweetDeck.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! As a fellow member of Generation Y, much of this resonates with me. I think everyone who has some sense of purpose wants to learn how to get to the stage where they are engaged and feel empowered in a meaningful capacity. But is there not an initial missing gap from a desire to engage to observant and well-informed?

Cheers,

Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! As a fellow member of Generation Y, much of this resonates with me. I think everyone who has some sense of purpose wants to learn how to get to the stage where they are engaged and feel empowered in a meaningful capacity. But is there not an initial missing gap from a desire to engage to observant and well-informed?</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Ben</p>
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