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	<title>Comments on: On politics and relevance</title>
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	<description>a dash of impossibility makes for more fun</description>
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		<title>By: Remarkk! &#187; Vancouver TransitCamp</title>
		<link>http://www.countablyinfinite.ca/blog/2007/11/on-politics-and-relevance/comment-page-1/#comment-38078</link>
		<dc:creator>Remarkk! &#187; Vancouver TransitCamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up fast on December 8th. Congratulations to Karen (Quinn) for surviving the existential angst and politically charged atmosphere just getting to launch. Karen was at the first TransitCamp in Toronto and has been passionate about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up fast on December 8th. Congratulations to Karen (Quinn) for surviving the existential angst and politically charged atmosphere just getting to launch. Karen was at the first TransitCamp in Toronto and has been passionate about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: countably infinite &#187; Poly-ticks - multiple flesh-eating creatures</title>
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		<dc:creator>countably infinite &#187; Poly-ticks - multiple flesh-eating creatures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the days following my post about the relevance of Transit Camp, I did continue to fret about whether Thai Spice (my pet name for the critic of the event) was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the days following my post about the relevance of Transit Camp, I did continue to fret about whether Thai Spice (my pet name for the critic of the event) was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dustin, Roland, Ariane and Stephen for your supportive comments. I&#039;ve had a few more conversations over the past few days to solidify my perspective, as well as a bit of academic reading to bolster it as well, funny enough.

My comment was starting to get a little long, so I&#039;m going to start a new post to riff off your comments and my further reflection on this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dustin, Roland, Ariane and Stephen for your supportive comments. I&#8217;ve had a few more conversations over the past few days to solidify my perspective, as well as a bit of academic reading to bolster it as well, funny enough.</p>
<p>My comment was starting to get a little long, so I&#8217;m going to start a new post to riff off your comments and my further reflection on this topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ariane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, in my academic life, I was actually a geography/urban planning geek, not a computer geek, and I spent a lot of time thinking about stuff like this.  And I would like to say with much optimism that TransitCamp is a perfect example of exactly what IS relevant.  The fact of the matter is that when you&#039;re rallying *against* someone or something, that is when they are least likely to want to listen to or incorporate your ideas into their own vision.  Fun and collaborative or unconference style events are perfectly suited to something like public transit, where a lot of people have different ideas of how things should be working.

It&#039;s a great thing you&#039;re taking on here, don&#039;t let the naysayers get you down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, in my academic life, I was actually a geography/urban planning geek, not a computer geek, and I spent a lot of time thinking about stuff like this.  And I would like to say with much optimism that TransitCamp is a perfect example of exactly what IS relevant.  The fact of the matter is that when you&#8217;re rallying *against* someone or something, that is when they are least likely to want to listen to or incorporate your ideas into their own vision.  Fun and collaborative or unconference style events are perfectly suited to something like public transit, where a lot of people have different ideas of how things should be working.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a great thing you&#8217;re taking on here, don&#8217;t let the naysayers get you down!</p>
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		<title>By: Bokashi Blog &#187; Keep Transit Public Rally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bokashi Blog &#187; Keep Transit Public Rally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Background and commentary here, here and here [Source] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stephen Rees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Rees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 06:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transit Camp and opposition to Bill 43 are two different issues.

Transit Camp is, as I understand it, trying to make transit work better. Bill 43 is about who is going to control the body that - among other things - provides the transit service.

We have to make our voices heard - and I think 300 people outside the convention centre tonight did that - but we must also recognise the reality that the Liberals have a big enough majority in the house and enough contempt for popular opinion that they can press on regardless. 

Making transit &quot;suck less&quot; is, in and of itself, a worthwhile cause. I happen to think that more funding and more buses are an essential first step, but better use of what we have is also needed. 

You are not irrelevant! Keep up the good work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transit Camp and opposition to Bill 43 are two different issues.</p>
<p>Transit Camp is, as I understand it, trying to make transit work better. Bill 43 is about who is going to control the body that &#8211; among other things &#8211; provides the transit service.</p>
<p>We have to make our voices heard &#8211; and I think 300 people outside the convention centre tonight did that &#8211; but we must also recognise the reality that the Liberals have a big enough majority in the house and enough contempt for popular opinion that they can press on regardless. </p>
<p>Making transit &#8220;suck less&#8221; is, in and of itself, a worthwhile cause. I happen to think that more funding and more buses are an essential first step, but better use of what we have is also needed. </p>
<p>You are not irrelevant! Keep up the good work</p>
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		<title>By: Roland Tanglao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland Tanglao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes!
diversity++
diversity of discussion, media, etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes!<br />
diversity++<br />
diversity of discussion, media, etc</p>
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		<title>By: dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post! You hit it right on. Thanks for your work in getting TransitCamp going here, you&#039;re doing great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post! You hit it right on. Thanks for your work in getting TransitCamp going here, you&#8217;re doing great!</p>
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